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Please click the blue button that says "show" to reveal my rationale.𝔓420°𝔓Holla 16:34, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

Source assessment table
Source Independent? Reliable? Significant coverage? Count source toward GNG?
~ Former employer but there is probably some editorial oversight on their website Yes Has a press in good standing I think? No 404 error and I couldn't retrieve it from the Internet Archive ✘ No
No Website of the organisation that he was the leader of No Nothing at WP:RS and the website is no longer live File:Blue question mark (italic).svg Website 404 error ✘ No
No Website of the organisation that he was the leader of No Nothing at WP:RS and the website is no longer live File:Blue question mark (italic).svg Website 404 error ✘ No
Yes The source doesn't mention the subject so it's independent in that regard . Yes Emerald Group Publishing appears to be in good standing No Doesn't mention the subject ✘ No
No Website of an organisation whose board he sat on. File:Blue question mark (italic).svg No discussion at WP:RS that I am aware of No Just a mention in a primary source ✘ No
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

𝔓420°𝔓Holla 16:32, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

  • CommentThe awards could potentially support C2 of WP:NACADEMIC/C1 WP:ANY. However, as far as I can see there aren't any reliable independent sources to verify that he actually received those awards so including them is effectively original research.

His TV appearances may support C1 of WP:ENT although the sources used don't verify these appearances and the text implies that he only had supporting roles or guest appearances in these productions.

There may also be C5 and C3 of WP:NACADEMIC and his editorships could potentially support C8.

But, as far as I can see there simply aren't any reliable sources to support any of the above. Also, if these subject-specific criteria were present then one would assume that there would be some secondary-source coverage and therefore GNG. Relying on primary sources alone to establish notability usually results in pages that read like lists or CVs and the end result is effectively a secondary source when we're aiming to create a tertiary source here.

Plus, any future expansions may very well lead us down the OR route.𝔓420°𝔓Holla 14:03, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

  • NeutralI am going to abstain from voting for now with a recommendation to allow the discussion to continue for another week to see if any ATDs are possible and reach a broader consensus on what to do with this page. Thank you enwiki contributor and enwiki contributor for your insights and contributions thus far.𝔓420°𝔓Holla 14:03, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
  • Delete per my source evaluation table. Sadly, the discussions about alternative notability haven't yielded a reason to keep this article.𝔓420°𝔓Holla 09:27, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
  • Delete per TL:N. No verified sources shown. : Felicette 23:05, 30 September 2026 (UTC)
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